Bullies

[justme324]

My very good friend's 10 year old son is being bullied at school. So far he has come home with a fat lip, a hole in his leg where he was stabbed by a pencil and had a drill bit held to his cheek and told by the bully that he had killed a dog with that drill bit and if he told that he would be the next victim. His new best friend since its a new school has been bullied by these same kids for two year and my friend just found out that his buddys mother was abused by the bullys mother while she was in school. WHAT ARE PEOPLE TEACHING THERE KIDS NOW A DAYS? We are about to be in the most special and sacred time of the year and it amazes me that this still goes on. Anyone got any advice. She has filed a police report and on Monday a local news station is going to come out and interview her. Hopefully this will get the school off their rears. Thanks for letting me vent. And if you have any advice please feel free.
Rebecca

[JOHNOR]

what is this world coming to?

what are these parents teaching their children? i don't have children yet, but if one of my children grew up to be a bully they would be in SERIOUS trouble, believe me, they would never do it again after i was finished with them.

i am not sure my advice would do you much good, i'm afraid that if it were my child i would have them understand that if they were to be attacked by a bully, they must attack back. i know that may be "morally" wrong, but that is how i feel. that horrible bully would probably back down in a heartbeat. i feel it is important that innocent victims try their best to stand up for themselves. of course before it even got to that i would approach his mum and ask if we could have a quiet chat, i would explain the situation and would hope that she would have stern words with her child. can your friend not approach the mum and see what she says? the school should also really be doing something about this vile child.

[Chillywilly]

I have a 9 year old son who also was treated the same way. I went to the parents home and let them know that this is not exceptable. I would also hold the school accountable for my child's safety. This is not an okay thing. This could mess with his or her self esteem for the future. Just don't sit back and let it continue. Call the police as well the more parent tell on this bully maybe someone will listen before something major happens.

[justme324]

The mother was a bully herself while she was in school. And my friend got word that the drill bit was givin back to the kid after school that day. The school needs to do something. To me it was a terroristic threat and the young man needs to be SUSPENDED. The school says next time he will be punished. Next time. My lord does this principle not have any sense.
I wasnt bullied in school so I can imagine what this young man is going through. But he is the sweetest cute little guy.
Rebecca

[Chillywilly]

I would inform the school should anything happen to my child that they will be held responsible. And document the conversation and report it as well. Something is wrong when things are allow to take place like that. Maybe reach out the school board and inform them of all of thinks this kid has done.

[JOHNOR]

that school has alot to answer for.

it sounds like your friend isn't just sitting around and doing nothing, so that's obviously a good thing. keep behind her all the way, make sure she doesn't back down on this. get her to go to the school on monday and DEMAND that they address this issue.

i would also advise her to contact the boy's mum, whether by phone or at the school if she sees her. she needs to explain the situation to her and if she has any decency she will punish her boy severley for this. your friend needs to talk to her son, to reassure him that he has done nothing wrong and this will all get sorted out. the poor little guy needs all the support he can get.

please keep us posted.

[Faith4always]

Well, I understand.
I was bullied through most of my school experience growing up.
I hated school and didn't do nearly as well as I could've academically.
If the school isn't going to do anything - teach your child self-defense.
Teach him how to fight unfair. Teach him to fight to win!! Poor little guy.
I can't stand bullies preying on helpless children who are taught to respect others and to treat others the right way. Then they get pounded for it? Nope. This just my 2 cents worth.

[Snow is falling...]

The sad thing is, most bullied children are the sweetest kids you could meet, and vulnerable because of it. :(

[trackrebel]

reading about something like that, makes me really, really mad...especially that the mother has been like that...and kinda raised her so to be a bad guy....
If that happened to my daughter...I would do the things Your friend did....and teach my daughter to fight back....I know fighting is not an answer....but defending is no crime.

I really hope that this will be put to an end...boy that´s terrible.

[Faith4always]

If kids can't or don't know how to fight back - they could get seriously injured and not only that - it'll boost their self confidence level.
Ask me how I know.

[JOHNOR]

If kids can't or don't know how to fight back - they could get seriously injured and not only that - it'll boost their self confidence level.
Ask me how I know.

how do you know? lol!

seriously, i totally agree. i would want my child to smack that bully right back.

[HolidayHoney]

Don't let the principal turn his back on this situation, force him to do his job. Don't back down, a child's outlook on life is on the line here.

[Christmas Snow Angel]

That is so sad. You would think that if the school couldn't stop it the Board of Education would step in but in today's times you have to walk on egg shells so you don't cause a "riff" for anyone.

I know a little girl (10 yrs old) who attends our church is being bullied by a neighbor. Her parents doesn't attend church, another member brings her. They've beat this little girl up, called her names. She told her parents and then both set of parents started fighting. The police was called. It's a mess. Also at my daughters school, they've already had a bullying meet with all the 5th grade students because it's already started at the school this year.

My daughters know they are not to be mean or rude to anyone, however, if they're being disrespected or feel threatened they are allowed to defend theirselves.

MOST parents today do not raise their children. The tv babysits, video games and music teaches morals, and the child pretty much does whatever he or she wants. As long as they're not bugging mom and dad who cares right?? >insert eye roll here please<

[clarebear]

I hope you sort this. I HATE any form of bulling!!!

[Faith4always]

I was tortured in school. Seriously.
I was always a little pudgy and kinda awkward. I know why nature eats their wounded now! It took years for me to be able to hold my head up.
In Jr High School, it was nothing to have your ..eh hem...rear pinched, groped, etc. It wasn't right and nobody could do anything about it.
I finally one day had enough. I was in 9th grade. I hauled off and slapped this boy coo-coo. Just as the teacher walked in. I got sent to the principle's office. I told him off. I never got in trouble. So by 10th grade, I quit school. I eventually got my GED though. Yay me!

[trackrebel]

good job girl!!!

[JanaBanana]

Ok I havent read everyones replies here, but I have to tell you to tell your friend to NOT STOP trying to protect her son...
A couple weeks ago my son (12) was going through the same thing, and he ended fighting the boy... We have taught our kids not to back down... however be sure she goes to the school and tells the principal that it is THEIR JOB to protect her son... My husband went to the school and was irrate with the principal and told her she wasnt doing her job! My son is academically advanced and he shouldnt have to worry about these idiots bullies everyday and instead his grades...
Bullies get my blood boiling big time! I know how she is feeling right now... Tell her not to stop until these kids leave her son alone.. poor kid :(
THere is a website on this... children will actually commit sucide from crap like this.

I will also add what I told the principal.. I said "Ma'am, if you cant protect my son then I WILL... I will come to school with him everyday WITH MY infant and protect him myself. If thats what it takes"
She of course took care of the problem right away as they also knew how a baby can disturb a class... but I was willing to do that to protect him and any of my children. No child deserves to go into a war zone like that with little terrorists trying to hurt them daily, and thats bascially how they feel.

Good luck and let us know how it turns out..

[JOHNOR]

well said jana.

as i pointed out before, DO NOT let your friend back down on this, keep behind her 100% and make sure she sees this through.

please let us know how it all turns out.

[JanaBanana]

Thank you... this is a subject that can get heated for me.. there are so many times children dont come to their parents or just dont get the help they deserve and it breaks my heart to see a child bullied.

[justme324]

Thanks Jana and all you ladies. As you can tell I get a little heated about this because of the stupidity of it all. Our children deserve to be able to go to school and church and be appreciated and no have to fear what will happen to them. I can tell you my friend will not back down. She is the mother of 5 and a very strong wonderful woman. I will keep you updated.
Thanks for the support and ideas. Jana I hope that your son is doing well now.
Rebecca

[JanaBanana]

Yes he is doing very well now thank you... the kid messed up big time because even the bullies friends told him he was an idiot :D This was a BIG football player too.. and my son is only 4'9" and 70lbs and the teacher actually had to pull MY son off of him...

NO child needs to be put through this... I sure hope

[Annette1990]

Yes it is sad this type of stuff still goes on. Bullying can emotionally scar children for life. When I hear about this type of behavior it really angers me. Does the school not have a zero tolerance policy for this type of behavior? Or maybe they just don't take it seriously. And feel that kids will be kids...let them work it out. Which is a bunch of you know what if that is the case. I mean you hear about it all the time when it goes just a little to far because no-one took it seriously to begin with and then it's to late. Something terrible happens. I wish your friend the best and hope this issue is resolved soon.

[VeryWelshXmasLover]

how sad....I hate to hear of bullying :(

[Courtney]

Poor kid! :(
If the principal won't do anything I would contact the school board. I would get a restraining order as well.

[justme324]

Please say a prayer for Jerry today. He is scared to go to school. Say a prayer for him and his mother they both need it.
Rebecca

[snowytree]

I've always told my kids that if someone bullies them, tell them to leave you alone then walk away. I agree with self defense if the person is physically attacking them and they cannot get away. In some cases one child will be smaller than another and it can be a bad situation with the constant teasing, etc. My youngest is shorter than most of the other children his age and he fought off a bully by just continuing to ignore him! As far as it goes for these parents taking part in this bullying they should be completely ashamed of themselves, and if not, they need to have their heads checked in my opinion. If none of these things work then I will have a meeting with the teacher.

[JOHNOR]

i will say a little prayer for them.

please tell her to keep fighting this, let us know how it all turns out.

[trackrebel]

I will say a prayer myself, too.....lets hope the bully stops being an idiot....and his mom as well....and lets hope this whole ordeal stops as soon as possible and the boy can enjoy going to school again!

[justme324]

Update...Well the bully got suspended for 10 days. Which is better than nothing. But my friend has not given up. The news crew is investigating. The bully's grandmother called my friend. Her first reaction was to hang up but she ended up glad she didnt. This grandmother wants to help get the bully back in line. It has come out that this young man has been permanantly suspeneded from 2 other schools. And the grandmother wants to get CPS involved because his mother (who was a bully herself in school) is not doing anything to stop her son and is in fact kinda encouraging him on. And the father of the bully has been in and out of jail so many times he has taught the boy you dont have to be afraid of the police. So the grandmother wants to get CPS involved so she can possibly get custody of the young man and get him turned around. Eventually if something doesnt happen to change his out look he is going to meet someone meaner than himself and it could end up with this kid dead. I mostly just want him to leave my friends son alone. As he was too afraid to go to school today. And I think its the principal that needs to be afraid now as he told my friend he wasnt exactly sure that a drill bit was a weapon. I think he needs to pull his head out of the dark cavern he has it stuck in and be a man. But in the mean time Jerry will be ok for at least a few days. Now we go forward from here. Thanks for your care in this matter and I will keep you updated.
Rebecca

[Christmas Snow Angel]

I hope CPS does step in, and I wish the best of luck to the bullies grandma. At least your friends son is safe for a few days and has a little less anxiety right now. I'm glad to hear that your friend is still contacting the local media over this too.

[reindeerelf]

A any child who has claimed to kill a dog has the potential to grow up to be a very dangerous member of society and needs professional help ASAP. Such disregard for life is a serious warning sign . If the child is so unfortunate that his family cannot or will not get him the help he needs the community must take action. Get together with other parents and keep the pressure on the school board and community social services to do what is needed. A young life is at risk and can and must be saved.

[irishgirl]

I am so happy that at least something has happened! I can't imagine what your friend and her child must be going through. How can the principal say a drill bit isn't a weapon? He mustn't do any home improvemets. IT is a piece of metal that screws into wood and metal.. hello!!!! When did this country get so "PC" that we work so hard not to offend anyone at the expense of someone else? That poor child. I hope the grandmother is able to step in and help. It is so sad when you see a pattern of abuse cycle through (whether it be emotional, mental or physical). The worse part is the child doing the bullying doesn't seem to know he is doing wrong because he was raised that this is normal. I also agree that he is heading down a bad path. IF he really did kill an animal that shows a lack of respect for life and studies have been done linking that behavior to serial killers. I pray for both children involved in this case. PS, you are a GREAT friend!!!

[justme324]

A any child who has claimed to kill a dog has the potential to grow up to be a very dangerous member of society and needs professional help ASAP. Such disregard for life is a serious warning sign . If the child is so unfortunate that his family cannot or will not get him the help he needs the community must take action. Get together with other parents and keep the pressure on the school board and community social services to do what is needed. A young life is at risk and can and must be saved.


I agree with you on this completely. This young man needs help. He has some mental issues that need to be addressed asap.
Rebecca

[justme324]

I am so happy that at least something has happened! I can't imagine what your friend and her child must be going through. How can the principal say a drill bit isn't a weapon? He mustn't do any home improvemets. IT is a piece of metal that screws into wood and metal.. hello!!!! When did this country get so "PC" that we work so hard not to offend anyone at the expense of someone else? That poor child. I hope the grandmother is able to step in and help. It is so sad when you see a pattern of abuse cycle through (whether it be emotional, mental or physical). The worse part is the child doing the bullying doesn't seem to know he is doing wrong because he was raised that this is normal. I also agree that he is heading down a bad path. IF he really did kill an animal that shows a lack of respect for life and studies have been done linking that behavior to serial killers. I pray for both children involved in this case. PS, you are a GREAT friend!!!


Thank you. I am trying to help her with all the support I can.
Rebecca

[JOHNOR]

i am so pleased that something is finally being done.

that principal is an idiot. hopefully he will come to his senses soon.

that's great that the grandma is trying to help, hopefully this kid will turn his life around now and i pray she gets custody.

keep us updated.

[babesbeme]

Hello dear friend. Talking about me are ya, :-) Well, now that media is brought into the mix, the principal called and told me he has spoken with the parents. He told the parents that their son can not return until the child has had a full psyc evaluation! Oooooohhhhh happppy days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 I am THRILLLED!!!!! I think I have their full attention now. :-) LOL!!!!

[babesbeme]

I tried this once so lets see if I can get it to work this time. Talking about me are ya, :-) The principal called and told me that the parents were told their son can not return until a full psyc evaluation is done. so the suspension has now change to a psyc eval!!!! I am very very happy to hear this news. I am going to take a wild guess that the news crews spoke with him, and that a phone call from the State Department of Education was recieved. Just a guess, LOL!!!! THank you all for you kind thoughts and prayers. Jerry will be so thrilled when he comes home today to hear this great news!! My very good friend's 10 year old son is being bullied at school. So far he has come home with a fat lip, a hole in his leg where he was stabbed by a pencil and had a drill bit held to his cheek and told by the bully that he had killed a dog with that drill bit and if he told that he would be the next victim. His new best friend since its a new school has been bullied by these same kids for two year and my friend just found out that his buddys mother was abused by the bullys mother while she was in school. WHAT ARE PEOPLE TEACHING THERE KIDS NOW A DAYS? We are about to be in the most special and sacred time of the year and it amazes me that this still goes on. Anyone got any advice. She has filed a police report and on Monday a local news station is going to come out and interview her. Hopefully this will get the school off their rears. Thanks for letting me vent. And if you have any advice please feel free.
Rebecca

[JOHNOR]

i am so pleased, keep us informed of how it all goes.

hopefully that kid will get some serious help and change his ways.

[justme324]

I tried this once so lets see if I can get it to work this time. Talking about me are ya, :-) The principal called and told me that the parents were told their son can not return until a full psyc evaluation is done. so the suspension has now change to a psyc eval!!!! I am very very happy to hear this news. I am going to take a wild guess that the news crews spoke with him, and that a phone call from the State Department of Education was recieved. Just a guess, LOL!!!! THank you all for you kind thoughts and prayers. Jerry will be so thrilled when he comes home today to hear this great news!!


How is our boy doing today Babes. Make sure you give him a big hug for me when he gets home!!! How did the news crew thing go??? I am so very glad that things are working better. This has given me a migraine worrying about you two.
Rebecca

[babesbeme]

I am sorry that you got a migraine from worring about me. I hope this good news that I gave you made you feel better, :-)

[Ms_Speedy_Elf]

So glad to hear that things are going in your favor .

If the news crew did interview you is there a link where we can read the interview or see it on video?

[irishgirl]

Good News!!! Finally your boy can be safe and maybe the other boy can get the help he needs!!!!

Keep us posted

[babesbeme]

Unfortuantly when there is better more important news that takes priority. They ended up not coming out. She did say she was going to still do my story, I just don't know if it will be her coming out here or her just doing a story witht he information she has. We will see. In the meantime, I should mention that the sub who said,"I don't care, take your seat" will not be able to teach as the school again. Notta, zip zero, :-)

[trackrebel]

I´m very glad this case has been solved and Your son is save....I hope he will recover from being afraid everyday as soon as possible.

[justme324]

I am sorry that you got a migraine from worring about me. I hope this good news that I gave you made you feel better, :-)
Good news always makes me feel better Babes. And knowing Jerry will be ok is the icing on the cake. It was frustration about the situation that was getting to me. I just cant see how a principal could be so stupid. But YOU got his attention. You are SUPER MOM!!!
Rebecca


Note to self dont get Babes mad at you. :)

[Christmas Snow Angel]

Unfortuantly when there is better more important news that takes priority. They ended up not coming out. She did say she was going to still do my story, I just don't know if it will be her coming out here or her just doing a story witht he information she has. We will see. In the meantime, I should mention that the sub who said,"I don't care, take your seat" will not be able to teach as the school again. Notta, zip zero, :-)

I really hope they still do a story about it. It could help another family with bullies or help a family with a bully in it. I'm glad your son is safe now and I'm glad the bully is getting help.

[trackrebel]

that&#180;s true...when things like that are made public anid shown on TV...there is usually a big outrage in public about it....and people look a bit closer....at least for some time!

[MerryChristmasLydio]

My very good friend's 10 year old son is being bullied at school. So far he has come home with a fat lip, a hole in his leg where he was stabbed by a pencil and had a drill bit held to his cheek and told by the bully that he had killed a dog with that drill bit and if he told that he would be the next victim. His new best friend since its a new school has been bullied by these same kids for two year and my friend just found out that his buddys mother was abused by the bullys mother while she was in school. WHAT ARE PEOPLE TEACHING THERE KIDS NOW A DAYS? We are about to be in the most special and sacred time of the year and it amazes me that this still goes on. Anyone got any advice. She has filed a police report and on Monday a local news station is going to come out and interview her. Hopefully this will get the school off their rears. Thanks for letting me vent. And if you have any advice please feel free.
Rebecca

That's horrible! I promise you that if I was there those boys who are being the bullies would be in the hospital with more than just a broken nose and pencil stabs.

[JanaBanana]

Hopefully the boy gets the message... sometimes it can get worse after returning from the suspension... keep us posted.
I hope your son is feeling safer going to school now.. its reason's like this that I am for the really good private schools or homeschooling.

[Santa's Helper]

The mother was a bully herself while she was in school. And my friend got word that the drill bit was givin back to the kid after school that day. The school needs to do something. To me it was a terroristic threat and the young man needs to be SUSPENDED. The school says next time he will be punished. Next time. My lord does this principle not have any sense.
I wasnt bullied in school so I can imagine what this young man is going through. But he is the sweetest cute little guy.
Rebecca
This just ticks me off that "next time he will be punished." How many times have you heard in the news that some kindergarten kid was suspended for bringing a water gun to school and this kid makes a threat with a weapon that can actually cause serious bodily harm and he isn't suspended. Worse yet they give it back to him! Amazing.

[ohchristmastree]

I remember when i got bullied at school. One day they (2 of them) came to my house i was in the kitchen and i was making a coffee anyway i saw them and i locked with window and i took the kettle with me put it on a shelf i opened the door and they said something like if you dont let me in your house i will kill you! it was absolutely horrible and i when through this for like 2 years anyway they said that and i through the boiling hot water over both of them i know it wasent right but it did stop the bullying HaHa!!!

[trackrebel]

I would have done exactly the same!!!....It might not be right...but we are humans...are You were defending Yourself...so I say...You were absolutely right to defend Yourself!!!

[lizziexo]

I hae a big dislike for bullies, I feel sorry for them though because they have to chip away at someone else confidence to make them feel better. Its just wrong. I wouldn't wish bullying upon anyone its an awful thing to go threw.

[lizziexo]

My spelling was awful on that :S:S
I meant have and through*** :) sorry guys

[justme324]

My spelling was awful on that :S:S
I meant have and through*** :) sorry guys

I type crappy sometimes too. Dont worry its ok.
Rebecca

Smile be happy!!!:tree: