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Jeff Westover 10-04-2005 08:24 AM

Christmas in the Schools
 
Is it done anymore? Or do the schools in your area call December a "celebration of winter" too? In the schools here you cannot even say "Christmas".

It's ridiculous.

Jeff

gracie 10-05-2005 11:45 AM

ok here we go!!! I dont want to offend anyone ------ but here goes anyway. I am a christian and I think we should celebrate Christs birth anywhere we want to--on the other hand I would not want my kids to celebrate Allahs or Buddahs birthday. So this is a tricky one. I dont like the fact that we have to say Happy Holidays to be politically correct ,I always smile and say Merry Christmas. Am I a pain in the neck? I certianly hope not ,I just want to let the world know I love my Lord and Savior . Our Country was founded on Christianity and we should be able ot keep those values . I dont see how celebrating Christmas is forcing religion down anyones throat but some folks say it is--Its sort of like being a bible thumper( I find that term funny- not offensive ) but we are using christmas carol books instead of bibles.So Jeff, Do I think we should be able to celebrate Christmas in the schools? In a word----YES!

gracie 10-05-2005 11:45 AM

ok here we go!!! I dont want to offend anyone ------ but here goes anyway. I am a christian and I think we should celebrate Christs birth anywhere we want to--on the other hand I would not want my kids to celebrate Allahs or Buddahs birthday. So this is a tricky one. I dont like the fact that we have to say Happy Holidays to be politically correct ,I always smile and say Merry Christmas. Am I a pain in the neck? I certianly hope not ,I just want to let the world know I love my Lord and Savior . Our Country was founded on Christianity and we should be able ot keep those values . I dont see how celebrating Christmas is forcing religion down anyones throat but some folks say it is--Its sort of like being a bible thumper( I find that term funny- not offensive ) but we are using christmas carol books instead of bibles.So Jeff, Do I think we should be able to celebrate Christmas in the schools? In a word----YES!

10-05-2005 12:31 PM

School is no place to talk about Christmas if you ask me. They should take God out of the pledge too. And they need to get rid of Martin Luther King day. He was a religious figure. If you can't sing Jingle Bells then the good reverend needs to sit down.

Maximus

Jeff Westover 10-05-2005 04:09 PM

Maximus,

First of all, welcome. Gracie's right, this can be emotionally charged as an issue.

But I wouldn't go so far as to say Martin Luther King needs to sit down. But I think you're just making a point and I get it.

When the angels announced to the shepherds the Birth of the Savior they said basically this: "Peace on earth and goodwill to all men".

I don't see anything politically incorrect in that. We all said "Merry Christmas" when I was growing up and none of us ended with three heads.

And God stays in my pledge.

Jeff

Mr. Christmas 10-05-2005 07:01 PM

Agreed, Jeff. God will be in my pledge. Like Aaron Tippin's great song says: "I pledge allegance to my flag, if that bothers you, well that's too bad." And Christmas will be part of my vocabulary whenever and wherever I go. If others don't like it, they don't have to say it, no ones forcing them. And I think its wrong for us to be forced to give up the 10 commandments in court houses.

frank8265 10-06-2005 12:38 AM

I can't think of a good reason why any school (be it in the us or europe or anywhere) shouldn't or couldn't teach about our christian background and upbringing like christmas, easter, etc...
It's part of our heritage, part of us. And something to be proud of.

I can understand why different cultures might look strangy at christmas, but we don't tell them to give up their religion or culture? Wouldn't do any good any way I think.

Just let us be proud of who we are and let us pas our background, traditions, heritage on to our childeren, grandchilderen and so on....
And thank God that we have this to pas on. :smile:

SnowAngel 10-07-2005 12:38 AM

okay, I understand that everyone wants children to learn about the Christmas holiday and such, and it's true, you should be able to say Merry Christmas when you want. But taking "Christmas" out of schools doesn't prevent someone to spread the Christmas cheer. Saying Happy Holidays is not being politically incorrect, it's spreading the happiness to others no matter what belief system you or they may have. Christmas is not the only holiday celebrated in December and if it's looked on as a politcally correct way by anyone, then maybe they should do some soul searching. Happy Holidays to me says, "hey, i hope you're having a good one, just like i. enjoy!"

Our country was not founded for just Christians. It was founded for religious freedom, not just for Christians. As a country, we have had millions of people from different races, cultures and religious backgrounds come here for these same reasons. Christian children go to school with jewish, muslim, hindu (among many other religions) everyday. But, why don't they spend weeks learning about their beliefs? Growing up as a Catholic in a public school, I was always upset as to why we didn't learn about Channuka or Ramadan or anything else as a matter of fact. I didn't think it was fair. I went to school with just as many Jewish kids as I did with Christians and I've heard how unfair it was to them from their own mouths. I had to ask those kids about the holidays they celebrated to learn anything about them. Why does december just have to be about Christmas? Why can't they incorporate all religious holidays celebrated in that same month to teach the children respect and understanding for other religions? In public school it doesn't even have to take the religious form, they can teach just the traditions of each holiday. For those Christians that feel the need to teach only Christian beliefs in school we have the Perocial school system for just that.

I've read in a post that someone doesn't want other religions pushed on their child so why should your religion be pushed on another? Kids of different religions aren't there to learn Christian ways, they're there to learn. period. You can't chose sides and you can't chose one over the other. How do you think it feels to the little kid sitting in the middle of the class that worships many gods (Hindu) and has no idea how the Christian belief system works and is basically forced fed Christmas, then the teacher moves on to math and says nothing about any other holiday, including his own?

Didn't Jesus say, "do unto others what you have them do unto you" ?

My opinion, either teach them all or don't teach them at all.

God in the pledge of alliegence is okay to me because God is a symbol for all not just for one.

and that's my two cents :D

scottishrose 10-13-2005 11:20 AM

What upsets me is the music program. I don't care of they sing Dreidel (SP?) Dreidel or some Kwanzaa song or any song (my middle schooler sang African, Japenese and Jewish songs last year!!)...
So why is it they can't sing ONE traditional American Christmas Carol????

My kids have never once sang a traditional Chrsitmas carol in school. They look at me in bewilderment when I sing them because they don'tknow the words...and in band and orchestra they're not playing them either!!
I'm all for educating on other traditions but why does that mean we sacrifice ours??

Annie

drumboytko 10-20-2005 01:42 PM

If this makes anyone feel better, at my school which I graduated, they call school vacation the "Holiday Break" but as well as all the other religious holiday songs someone else had referred to earlier, my school also always does a traditional christmas song at their holiday concerts. I plan on being a music teacher someday, and I plan on doing the same with my students. Actually, my senior year in high school, I remember us playing about half Christmas songs. We played probably 2 or 3. And I only graduated 3 years ago, and my brother currently is in chorus, and it is still the same. So not every school district has gone all politically correct.


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