The podcast version of the article I posted the link to is here.
Originally Posted by judesmama
Jeff did a podcast about this, too.. I will look for it!
Click the link to stream it. Give it a minute to load.
I think Jeff also talked about CIJ in a podcast recently---I think that's what judesmama is looking for, but I don't remember which episode, either. It was this year, though, so check the more recent three or four.