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I am about to start one of my two last classes of my undergraduate career, and one of them is a class on Film Noir (I know, itís a senior ďblow-offĒ class, should be very breezy). But, I just looked at some of the films I need to watch and there are some good ones on the list! Double Indemnity is a requirement, and Iíve actually never seen this movie. Iím looking forward to it. Sunset Boulevard is also on the list. Iíve seen it but it has been at least fifteen years. I actually have it on DVD but have not watched that copy yet, so Iím looking forward to seeing it again. The Maltese Falcon and The Third Man are required viewing as well. Iíve seen Falcon and enjoy it, but have never seen The Third Man. Beyond this, some late Noir such as Point Blank with Lee Marvin are required, and I love that movie! Itís very unique, but one of my favorites. Chinatown is required as well, and Iím not looking forward to it. Iíve always wanted to see it and want to like it, but I canít separate it from Roman Polanski, who I find myself wanting to punch in the face. But, it may still be a good movie.
AlrightÖjust thought Iíd pass it along. Have any of you seen any of these pictures? If so, what do you think?
I'm rather sheepish to admit that of that bunch, I've only seen "Sunset Boulevard." (I've seen bits of "The Maltese Falcon" on TCM, but not the whole thing. We tend more toward non-noir mysteries, comedies, and musicals.) "Sunset Boulevard" is ... weird. In a creepy sort of way. Poor Gloria Swanson. I get the impression that people who saw it thought she was playing herself, but that wasn't the case. She's interviewed in the "Hollywood" series, and although she's a bit dramatic at times (she tells a good story about playing a scene lying on the floor with a live, roaring lion on her back), she isn't a mental case.
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I'm rather sheepish to admit that of that bunch, I've only seen "Sunset Boulevard." (I've seen bits of "The Maltese Falcon" on TCM, but not the whole thing. We tend more toward non-noir mysteries, comedies, and musicals.) "Sunset Boulevard" is ... weird. In a creepy sort of way. Poor Gloria Swanson. I get the impression that people who saw it thought she was playing herself, but that wasn't the case. She's interviewed in the "Hollywood" series, and although she's a bit dramatic at times (she tells a good story about playing a scene lying on the floor with a live, roaring lion on her back), she isn't a mental case.
Sunset Boulevard is a bit creepy.

In your opinion, what are some of the best non-noir mysteries?
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In your opinion, what are some of the best non-noir mysteries?
Disclaimer: These are all from the 1930s and 1940s. These are my favorites, which may not be the same thing as "the best."

For series, EVERYONE love the Thin Man series, and I like them, too. I also enjoy Columbia's Boston Blackie series, but like the Chan series, I have trouble remembering which title goes with which plot! But I always enjoy Chester Morris, especially when George E. Stone plays The Runt. As for Charlie Chan, I prefer the early ones with Warner Oland and Keye Luke, while Mr. prefers the later ones with Sidney Toler and Mantan Moreland. I've also seen a couple of Mr. Moto films that I enjoyed. And I can always recommend Lloyd Nolan as Michael Shayne.

I also enjoy "Eyes in the Night," which stars Edward Arnold as a blind detective who solves mysteries with the aid of his assistant and a seeing-eye dog. It's a neat twist to see how a blind detective "sees" more than those around him, and he's not as helpless in a tight spot as you'd imagine. There was a sequel with the same detective, "The Hidden Eye." They're available on DVD.

Occasionally TCM shows "The Housekeeper's Daughter," starring Joan Bennett---but it's George E. Stone who steals the show as Benny. It's a fun mix of comedy, gangsters, and mystery.

One that isn't available on DVD or TCM---"Nine Girls," which involves the murder of a b*tchy sorority girl and eight likely suspects ... her sorority sisters! The murderer is revealed before the end, leading to a suspenseful denouement. There are only three men in the cast---"victory casting" due to the number of actors who were overseas fighting in WWII. TCM has listed it on its schedule at least twice, but substituted something else both times. I suspect there is no broadcast master for it, but it's somehow on TCM's "master list."

If I think of more, I'll post again, but that's probably more than you bargained for!
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Disclaimer: These are all from the 1930s and 1940s. These are my favorites, which may not be the same thing as "the best."

For series, EVERYONE love the Thin Man series, and I like them, too. I also enjoy Columbia's Boston Blackie series, but like the Chan series, I have trouble remembering which title goes with which plot! But I always enjoy Chester Morris, especially when George E. Stone plays The Runt. As for Charlie Chan, I prefer the early ones with Warner Oland and Keye Luke, while Mr. prefers the later ones with Sidney Toler and Mantan Moreland. I've also seen a couple of Mr. Moto films that I enjoyed. And I can always recommend Lloyd Nolan as Michael Shayne.

I also enjoy "Eyes in the Night," which stars Edward Arnold as a blind detective who solves mysteries with the aid of his assistant and a seeing-eye dog. It's a neat twist to see how a blind detective "sees" more than those around him, and he's not as helpless in a tight spot as you'd imagine. There was a sequel with the same detective, "The Hidden Eye." They're available on DVD.

Occasionally TCM shows "The Housekeeper's Daughter," starring Joan Bennett---but it's George E. Stone who steals the show as Benny. It's a fun mix of comedy, gangsters, and mystery.

One that isn't available on DVD or TCM---"Nine Girls," which involves the murder of a b*tchy sorority girl and eight likely suspects ... her sorority sisters! The murderer is revealed before the end, leading to a suspenseful denouement. There are only three men in the cast---"victory casting" due to the number of actors who were overseas fighting in WWII. TCM has listed it on its schedule at least twice, but substituted something else both times. I suspect there is no broadcast master for it, but it's somehow on TCM's "master list."

If I think of more, I'll post again, but that's probably more than you bargained for!
At first I thought I recognized "Nine Girls," but was thinking "Thirteen Women" with Irene Dunne and Myrna Loy. I have never seen "Thirteen Women" but have always wanted to! I wonder if "Nine Girls" is lost.

Thanks for the tips. I too love all of the Thin Man series. I've never actually seen a Charlie Chan film, so I need to get a hold of some.
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I wonder if "Nine Girls" is lost.
We have a 16mm print, so it's not entirely lost.
Whether the studio has 35mm elements in printable/transferable condition is another question. Our 16mm print has plenty of wear, a little shrinkage, and some "vinegar" in one reel; wish there was a quick and easy way to transfer it to video for preservation purposes. But it's been expertly repaired and lovingly cared for (Mr. is one of the best 16mm care-and-repair guys out there!), and it'll still go through a projector. We ran it last weekend.

Wait, just found an Internet article by a guy who's seen it---with an image of the one-sheet.
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I'm reading the article now. I would love to see this film!

It's a shame that so many movies have been lost over time. I know Nine Girls isn't technically lost, by it sounds like it is getting dangerously close to it!
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I have Jitterbugs waiting on me...going to try to watch it this week. It's one I don't have in my collection but was able to get it from Netflix. I'll let you know what I think!
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I have Jitterbugs waiting on me...going to try to watch it this week. It's one I don't have in my collection but was able to get it from Netflix. I'll let you know what I think!
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FYI...looking at the lineup for TCM this week, Thursday looks to be a real winner. First, there's a Falcon film on entitled "The Falcon Out West." The, a couple of comedies later in the day with L&H and the Marx Bros. in "Way Out West" and "Go West." Looks like some other good movies on that day, too.
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FYI...looking at the lineup for TCM this week, Thursday looks to be a real winner. First, there's a Falcon film on entitled "The Falcon Out West." The, a couple of comedies later in the day with L&H and the Marx Bros. in "Way Out West" and "Go West." Looks like some other good movies on that day, too.
Aha, the theme is "the West." Or non-Western films in a Western setting. Sounds like a fun day. Are they showing "Bowery Buckaroos"? "Ride 'em Cowboy"? "Mexican Spitfire Out West"? There are endless variations on that theme. I've been too busy to look at the schedule.

We watched "The Falcon's Brother" this weekend. I STILL don't like George Sanders and his condescending purr. He just gets my back up somehow with his attitude that no female can resist him. I just want to shove something messy in his face.
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