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Oh and my boyfriend is a mechanic and their work is slow . I mean you'd think that people would want to keep their car's in working order to get the best gas mileage.

Also ,you see a lot of people with car's in their yard for sale. Sometimes one ,sometimes 2 in a yard.
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Oh and my boyfriend is a mechanic and their work is slow . I mean you'd think that people would want to keep their car's in working order to get the best gas mileage.

Also ,you see a lot of people with car's in their yard for sale. Sometimes one ,sometimes 2 in a yard.
My car will be paid off in May and I plan on keeping it for a while. I need to keep it running good! It will be nice to not have a car payment. I see people trying to sell cars too, I've noticed that for about a year though. Mostly trucks or SUV's.
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And yet, yesterday, gas prices were as "low" as $2.89 in my area...
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chicago gas price down the street... lowest i've seen in a year...

$3.99 a gallon.

jana, i just got back from the grocery store. $100 even for 2 people for a week. and that does not include the box of veggies i got this morning from the farm... the veggies cost us $550 for 5 months of veggies (1 box a week).

prices are higher here than most of the country (USA) and our taxes are through the roof.
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What I've noticed, personally, is that there aren't nearly as many shoppers on a day to day basis than I used to see. My friend's mother and stepfather are selling their gorgeous, expensive house to get their money's worth so their retirement fund isn't threatened. Same friend's grandparents are selling their cottage that they've had for decades in northeast Ontario. :/

BUT gas has gone down drastically...it had been up to $1.36 a litre here but now is 99 cents a litre...lowest it's been in a long time.
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So many people here in Ontario have lost their jobs that they cant afford the "luxury" of keeping their cars up and in tip top shape. My hubby is on strike (entering the 9th week) with a company he has woprked for for 30 years. There has never been a strike before now and the reason is because 2 years ago, an American company bought them and they are trying to cut their wages by 25%, eliminate their pensions, make them pay 50% of their benefits..basically if they had of signed the offered contract, they would have lost a minimum of $15,000 per year. The economy is bad here and there is no sign of it improving anytime soon. My advice to those who think they are safe and doing well is to save save save becasue, as more jobs go under, yours will likely be affected eventually too. God be with us all.
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Good advice, Pam. What the American company is trying to do to its employees in your country is terrible -- and many companies are doing that in America, also. Companies owned by Americans and also by people from other countries.

I saw a program on the Great Depression -- and they said that the stock market crash of 1929 DID NOT START the Great Depression. That the Depression did not start until the 1930's. And that the worldwide taxpayer bailouts were designed to prevent another great depression from coming years after our recent stock market crash. Trouble is - some of the bailout plans were designed by the same people who led their companies into bankruptcy.

It is amazing to me that the millionaire masterminds of global business -- that they want to cut the wages and cut out the health care and pensions of their workers. (While their own benefits remain safe.) And the STILL expect the workers (taxpayers) to provide bailouts of billions of dollars.

OK, for those friends that I have offended -- I apologize. I treasure the people here for their loving hearts and beautiful spirits. I am sorry that this post upsets some of you.

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The simple rule of money isn't the same for government and business. In government, you get to pay without consequence. But when a business has to pay more it HAS to respond by cutting hours, wages, and benefits and raising prices. It is either do that, or go out of business.

Not all big business pays their CEOs big wages like those financial companies on Wall Street. In fact, the VAST MAJORITY of them don't. The companies I've worked for over the course of my career I had CEOs who made just barely more than some of the staff.

REAL businesses don't have the luxury of paying their people more. They are paying more for gas and other things just like we are. They are at a breaking point.
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Just to make my situation clear...our guys are not asking for anything. They are only requesting status quo.
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