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*** Healthcare Bill ***

I know this isn't Christmas related and it is hardly merry but I am shocked to see how few people know that in the US our elected representatives are very close to voting on a healthcare bill this weekend that most people haven't seen and that contains sweeping changes with far reaching consequences for every American.

No matter where you stand on this issue, contact your representative in Congress and be heard on this vital issue.
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Another little piece of infromation that came out this morning that most people probally haven't seen is that the national unemployment rate hit 10.2% in october.
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We've been following this closely, too, Jeff. They are rushing through and won't let anyone else review it closely. I'm not sure who our representatives are representing, but I'm pretty sure it's not us.
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It seems if you question anything about it, that AUTOMATICALLY means you want Senior Citizens and poor people to die of cancer or walking pnuemonia...

Just for the record, I don't want ANYONE to die...
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It seems if you question anything about it, that AUTOMATICALLY means you want Senior Citizens and poor people to die of cancer or walking pnuemonia...

Just for the record, I don't want ANYONE to die...

Don't forget the illegal ailens.
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I was forced to quit my job months ago and I haven't been able to find any job in my little old town...

That means I have no insurance and I have been sick ALOT lately and have no way to seek healthcare...

My mom was also recently diagnosed with Fibromialgia and I have been doing anything that I can to help her out because she's in alot of pain lately.

Who knows what is gonna happen to everyone out there like me unless Congress makes some right decisions...

I pray daily about this.
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I have been keeping up with this and I am just sick over it! Free enterprise is fading away. Don't even get me started.
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Both my husband and my employers cut health insurance and health insurance companies are honestly some of the most corrupt out there. I had the same insurance policy for months before I got pregnant and once I went in for my first appointment, our insurance company contacted us saying they refused to cover my costs, even though the policy said maternity costs would be covered. They tried to claim that I was pregnant before we purchased the policy even though we had the policy for six months and I was only 3 months pregnant at the time. I ended up having a high risk pregnancy and even though medically necessary, my insurance refused to cover the tests and ultrasounds I needed, so I had to apply for medicaid, which was a terrible/long/challenging process. We were at first denied because the incompetent people filed me as a male...then I had to re apply and wait at the office for four hours (being a pregnant gestational diabetic made that EXTREMELY difficult and I almost collapsed because the office was so hot and I missed scheduled blood testing and snacks).

The point I'm trying to make is: The health insurance industry is terrible. Breast and uterine cancer runs in my family, but I can't get the genetic testing done because if I do, my insurance company will claim that it's a pre existing condition if I ever did come down with it and refuse to cover my treatments...so I just have to wait and see. My grandmother died from it, my aunt died from it. I don't want to, so I wish I could get tested for the genes, but ha...my insurance wouldn't cover that either. We are currently paying hundreds of dollars a month for our insurance and we've gone to the doctor because my husband was having problems with his gall bladder and the insurance refused to cover the testing. Where is our money going? My sister is a doctor and she does not like this bill either, but she totally agrees that the health insurance industry is horrible. She says they just have people working there waiting to say, "no" to sick people. I'm not sure about this bill either. I really would like something to be done about health insurance though.
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Well, the problem is not with just the insurance companies. Years ago I had a procedure done and when we got the bill we could not believe the amount. (It was done in the Drs. office) So I called and asked them why it was so much. I was told by the nurse that if I didn't have insurance it would have been cheaper which I had insurance so they were overcharging the insurance company. That is not right and I know it happens all the time.
Government run medicare is expensive and people are led to believe it's not costing them anything and I would see on my Dad's social security statement exactly how much was taken out for medicare.
Medicare people need a supplement and I'm wondering if this health care plan requires a supplement. We will never know until further down the road what's in this plan and what is lacking.
It is very scary what's going on with our govt. They promised changes but are the changes totally opposite of what this country was built on? I believe we are heading in a wrong direction and new generations will deal with tremendous taxes and "no hope".

Also why isn't nothing being done about the cost of prescription drugs? Ummm, will there be a program in this new health care plan to ease that burden on people, especially the elderly? Oh wait, there probably won't be any elderly to worry about. it's all so sad and scary.
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No, I havent been following and I plan to go onto the website over the next few days and look. However, no one can seem to answer the question as to why we dont have a universal healthcare plan now. Timing is everything. And just when the economy is at its lowest, unemployment is at its highest and people are losing homes left and right, do they finally decide to tackle the healthcare crisis in this nation. We are a country with no basic healthcare insurance for people without a job or for people whose employer does not offer it. The way I see it, something is better than nothing. Its a start. May not be a good start, but people are at the table and talking about the issue. Its not a healthcare bill really, its a bill for nonhealthcare. If you have a job that provides healthcare, you shouldnt lose those benefits because your job laid off. You should be able to maintain SOMETHING without complete loss of coverage. Now call me uninformed(because I havent read the actual bill) and naive. I am sure I will find MANY things about it I dont like either. But just think how many people may become employed again if an employer no longer has to bear the expense of healthcare and the government provides it like they do in other countries. I am hoping in the long run, we will have something that is mutually satisfying for us all. In the meantime, whatever they are trying to pass now is only a band-aid and not a complete fix. But, lets get to reading the fine print, and seeing what it is really all about. Are we absolutely positively sure it will not benefit our seniors? Or is that some media hype and anti-presidential supporters who are trying to fill our minds up with things further from the truth. Well, I guess we will have to read and see. I am going to the presidents own website (barackobama.com). They have a countdown posted and everything. Gives all the info of who your representatives are and who you need to contact. I believe he is the FIRST president who has offered such accesible information to the public as far as he ideas, policies and agendas are concerned. So that is where I will get my information from. The vote takes place eastern time 6pm tomorrow (Saturday). Lets get to reading and find out the truth before we allow the media to poison us against something that could possibly be better than we thought. Or possibly worse!!!! Oh well, thats my soapbox speech for tonite. But again, I have to say some type of universal coverage is probably better than none at all. And one more thing, I hope they are offering the same plan that the government employees and family have. Because I DEFINITELY want their health plan and coverage!!! My husband is a government worker and I have to admit, their benefits can't be beat !!!!! And the cost is MINIMAL to nothing!! Thats what we should all be pushing for. Getting the same coverage they have!!! Ok....stepping down from my soapbox now....Thanks for listening.
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