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Ellen has a point...I often feel sorry for the birds...be it chicken, turkeys...no matter....but if you free all of them....where will they be going?....I guess it would be better to change the circumstances in which the turkeys are bred and better their short lifes a little.....

now my friends, I hope your turkeys gon be tastin good....I hope mine will be good come christmas too
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I think Ellen and the good folks at Adopt-a-Turkey have a good thought about HOW the birds are treated. I get that. I respect that. I even agree with that...to a point.

But I also suggest they spend a little time getting to know these animals.

They aren't exactly the brightest of animals. They aren't good pets (that's a really lame suggestion on their part, putting this animals as pets to those who are untrained is folly and, in a way, cruel too). And they have a natural place in the food chain that is, for lack of a better word, far more brutal than how humans treat them.

Turkey farms are abundant where I live and while I don't work on one and it isn't my life I've seen enough of them to know that they aren't the most endearing animal in the world and no amount of turkey-hugging is going to make them any more warm and fuzzy than they are now.

Yes, treat them with the decency you would any living being. Waste should be controlled. Living conditions should be humane.

But for pete's sake, let's respect the order of the food chain, too. They have a purpose. Those eating turkeys should not be made to feel like the criminals. Those who mistreat them should be.

This has nothing to do with vegan lifestyles. For those that practice that, for whatever reason, good for them. A carrot was once a living thing too but I don't see anyone clamoring for their rights or to adopt-a-stalk-of-celery or anything like that.

Let's keep things in perspective.

I also like turkey at Easter.
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I guess it would be better to change the circumstances in which the turkeys are bred and better their short lifes a little.....
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Yes, treat them with the decency you would any living being. Waste should be controlled. Living conditions should be humane.

But for pete's sake, let's respect the order of the food chain, too. They have a purpose. Those eating turkeys should not be made to feel like the criminals. Those who mistreat them should be.
That is a good point!

I would be concerned about any animal living in humane clean conditions before they are eaten.

If they are living in filthy inhumane conditions the meat would not be healthy and fit to eat.

I have heard Whole Foods do raise their animals properly. I also heard (love her or hate her) Martha Stewart sells turkey that is raised in clean humane conditions.

Just because I am vegetarian I would never insult anyone eating meat. I only insult some factories not keeping their establishments up to high standards. I still buy meat for my family and we do have turkey on the table.

I was part of a vegetarian forums so I could get some tips and recipes but really got tired of them insulting people who eat meat. They claimed anyone eating meat hated animals. Whatever! It got under my skin and I quit going to it. My whole family eats meat and LOVES animals!

Just know where your turkey is from and by all means ENJOY IT! Happy Thanksgiving!
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She is crazy. I'm EATING turkey :P lol
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Originally Posted by Jeff Westover View Post
I think Ellen and the good folks at Adopt-a-Turkey have a good thought about HOW the birds are treated. I get that. I respect that. I even agree with that...to a point.

But I also suggest they spend a little time getting to know these animals.

They aren't exactly the brightest of animals. They aren't good pets (that's a really lame suggestion on their part, putting this animals as pets to those who are untrained is folly and, in a way, cruel too). And they have a natural place in the food chain that is, for lack of a better word, far more brutal than how humans treat them.

Turkey farms are abundant where I live and while I don't work on one and it isn't my life I've seen enough of them to know that they aren't the most endearing animal in the world and no amount of turkey-hugging is going to make them any more warm and fuzzy than they are now.

Yes, treat them with the decency you would any living being. Waste should be controlled. Living conditions should be humane.

But for pete's sake, let's respect the order of the food chain, too. They have a purpose. Those eating turkeys should not be made to feel like the criminals. Those who mistreat them should be.

This has nothing to do with vegan lifestyles. For those that practice that, for whatever reason, good for them. A carrot was once a living thing too but I don't see anyone clamoring for their rights or to adopt-a-stalk-of-celery or anything like that.

Let's keep things in perspective.

I also like turkey at Easter.
GOOD POINTS JEFF!!! I think you have summed it up and said it best. Good Job!!

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I prefer ham at Easter, I'm not adopting a pig before anybody asks
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That is a good point!

I would be concerned about any animal living in humane clean conditions before they are eaten.

If they are living in filthy inhumane conditions the meat would not be healthy and fit to eat.

I have heard Whole Foods do raise their animals properly. I also heard (love her or hate her) Martha Stewart sells turkey that is raised in clean humane conditions.

Just because I am vegetarian I would never insult anyone eating meat. I only insult some factories not keeping their establishments up to high standards. I still buy meat for my family and we do have turkey on the table.

I was part of a vegetarian forums so I could get some tips and recipes but really got tired of them insulting people who eat meat. They claimed anyone eating meat hated animals. Whatever! It got under my skin and I quit going to it. My whole family eats meat and LOVES animals!

Just know where your turkey is from and by all means ENJOY IT! Happy Thanksgiving!
You go girl !!! No matter if you are vegetarian for health reasons or by choice, you are still considerate and respectful to others and that's what its all about.
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I used to raise turkeys, not to be mean but they are dumb as dirt and pretty annoying and sometimes mean to the other birds. We still raise chickens, ducks and geese...not for food use so noone worry lol.
But I will be buying a turkey to go along with my gravy
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I used to raise turkeys, not to be mean but they are dumb as dirt and pretty annoying and sometimes mean to the other birds. We still raise chickens, ducks and geese...not for food use so noone worry lol.
But I will be buying a turkey to go along with my gravy
lol...your post made me laugh.....but one point....just because the animals are dump...or at least to us they seem dumb.....doesnīt make it right to treat them like dirt....
as I said...I will go on to eat turkey...and chicken...but i hope...and even pray that one day those dairy farms, chicken farms, turkey farms start to treat the animals like living creatures instead of just things...that is what makes me sick and sometimes ashamed of eating meat
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