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Old 11-20-2012, 02:59 AM
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18 16x16 UK Consumer Champion's interesting views on gift giving.

In the UK, we've got a great guy called Martin Lewis who runs a site called 'Money Saving Expert' and he's a real consumer champion and all round good bloke!

This year he's got a campaign to ban 'unnecessary' gifts and presents: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalis...-presents.html

I think he's got a very good point. I love giving and receiving gifts, but doing it for the sake of doing it (and often under pressure both financially and culturally) seems very wrong and against the true spirit of Christmas.

I love the idea of his 'pre NUPP' (no unnecessary present pact): http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/nupp/

When I was a teenager, my family just used to give each other 'the most useless thing you can find for under 1'! It so much fun and you really had to be imaginative! (I managed not to spend anything one year! I think my killer gift I gave was a calendar for that year with a week left on it!)
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I love Martin Lewis. He makes some very good points here. There is too much financial pressure for all teh wrong reasons and liek you said this isn't the true meaning of christmas.
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Originally Posted by whychristmas View Post
In the UK, we've got a great guy called Martin Lewis who runs a site called 'Money Saving Expert' and he's a real consumer champion and all round good bloke!

This year he's got a campaign to ban 'unnecessary' gifts and presents: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalis...-presents.html

I think he's got a very good point. I love giving and receiving gifts, but doing it for the sake of doing it (and often under pressure both financially and culturally) seems very wrong and against the true spirit of Christmas.

I love the idea of his 'pre NUPP' (no unnecessary present pact): http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/nupp/

When I was a teenager, my family just used to give each other 'the most useless thing you can find for under 1'! It so much fun and you really had to be imaginative! (I managed not to spend anything one year! I think my killer gift I gave was a calendar for that year with a week left on it!)
Some of his ideas are remarkably similar to those of the Society for the Prevention of Useless Giving (the Spugs), which formed 100 years ago in New York City! They were very much against "doing it for the sake of doing it (and often under pressure both financially and culturally)." Their story is here.

When Christmas presents become a financial burden or one-upsmanship instead of a gift from the heart, it's time to stop and think about what Christmas giving really should mean. I saw a statistic recently (I think I'm repeating this accurately) that 45% of people with income less than $50K would prefer to skip Christmas altogether. It would be a shame to have Christmas die out because of a perception that the public can't afford to celebrate it. Christmas means---or should mean---so much more than gift-giving.
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Wow that's cool! SPUGS ftw!!! I've tweeted it to Martin Lewis - I think he'll like that!

Would you mind if I used the info on your post for a page on whychristmas? I'll link back to the post of course...
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Wow that's cool! SPUGS ftw!!! I've tweeted it to Martin Lewis - I think he'll like that!

Would you mind if I used the info on your post for a page on whychristmas? I'll link back to the post of course...
Let me know if Martin Lewis responds---I never dreamed the Spugs would find their way back to him! He would have been a perfect Spug Captain.

Yes, you may use the info for a post, and thank you for the link back. (Considering the comments Lewis's article has been getting from folks who read the headline but not his article, I hope I'm not letting myself in for trouble!) My info is all based on New York Times articles from 1912 and 1913. I found them when the NYT archives were still available on Google.
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