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First off, an introduction. I am new to these forums. My name is Katya. I joined for the most part to post what I am posting now. I wrote that downnot too long ago as a result of holiday frustrations. I just want to say now that it is a work of opinion and I mean no ill wishes on any of you kind people here. I also love to hear what you all think and what your perspectives are. Again, this is onyl my point of view from a different perspective than some people experience.
I want you all the think long and hard about this. Really hard. How much do you spend each holiday season? How much of it is on food? On gifts? On decorations? The average American spent $649 on holidays gifts, decorations, and other holiday-related merchandise in the year 2002.
In 2002, 78% of households in the United States gave at least one electronic item as a present during "the Holidays". Really, will your kid hate you if he doesn't get a PS3 or a Wii? In my experience, I don't usually USE my Christmas gifts for too long after recieving them. Toys also accounted for 38.6% of sales in 2002. The total amount of revenue expected in that season was estimated to be $209.3 BILLION dollars. I once worked at a major toy company and on one weekend in the holiday season of 2006, the store I worked at earned over one million dollars. ONLY our store and ONLY one weekend. Without the holiday season (of course I am being politically correct and including Hannakuh, Kwanzaa, Solstice, and other winter holidays as well as Christmas) most, if not all, major retailers would go bankrupt.
Christmas does wonders on the economy. Not only does it fuel capitalism, but it fuels greed and that's what really gets to me. I don't want you to come into reading this piece thinking this a rant of an un-satisfied teenager. This I believe is much more. I want my readers to sit down and actually think for once, as it seems that many people leave their thoughts (as well as their budget and their manners) at home during this most joyous time of the year.
For two years I worked at previously stated major toy company. Most of the time, it was alright. I liked most of the people and I liked most of the workers. The pay wasn't great, but what can you expect? I was 17 (then 18, then 19...) and I accepted that without a college degree, I can't really hope to earn more.
What really surprised me about working there though was that in the holiday season, people got MEAN. I mean every capitalised letter, folks. People got downright vicious. I have many experiences of this during the holiday season especially that of November-December 2006. I have been personally insulted, assaulted, and offended. And the big wigs let it all fly. Why is this? MONEY. I was denied a chance to go visit a doctor by my manager because I needed to be there to fuel people's greed. It was only when my father interviened days later that I was allowed to go. A co-worker of mine had items THROWN at her when she refused to take them back without a receipt. Customers have yelled at me and other co-workers of mine, reducing us to tears because they couldn't have their way. Management doesn't care about that either. Neither do customers, as long as they get their material possessions wrapped and put under the Christmas tree.
I am not objecting to the idea of Christmas. Ideally, it is very pretty. Celebrating the birth of Jesus mixed with pagan festivals to convert the non-believers. Now it is all about Santa Claus and who can get the best present (Jingle All The Way anyone?) and who spends the most and whose kid loves them the most because of it.
Let's all re-evaluate our lives and find out what really is important.
I understand that at some points stress can turn people ugly. You should see me around finals. But for a season supposedly so happy, why are people becoming so ugly?
(DISCLAIMER: This is a work of opinion. Just to let you all know. Don't get mad at me because I dislike Christmas.)
Sounds to me like you're hanging around the wrong people.
I've worked in retail every Christmas for nearly 30 years. Yes, there are moments of madness but no more than any other busy time. Human nature being what it is, people are bound to disappoint you for their baseless actions and thoughtlessness.
Are they the problem though? Or is it you and your unforgiving and critical nature? Are your expectations too high? Is it a case of the glass being too full or too empty? Or is it just too big?
These are rhetorical questions that, no doubt, will lead to no answers. I only hope to give you pause to rethink what you're saying.
In all things, especially Christmas, I believe in acting -- and not being acted upon. This tends to not only shift my paradigms about the disappointments others cause me but also to re-evaluate the quality of my own efforts.
As nephew Fred said -- "Christmas has done me good and will do me good and I say 'God bless it!'"
For many of us here, the Christmas season is a joyful mixture of our celebrating the birth of the Saviour as well as a lot of the commercial parts of Christmas. I hear a definite tone in your post of hating capitalism. Even though some people will be rude in any situation, there are many more who love to go out and shop for their friends and loved ones. You seem to just be focusing on the negative while overlooking the positive. For many of us, Christmas was the only time of the year when we could buy a lot of presents for our children. I know that I've always done it up big for my kids and even overdid it. But, this I know, I don't have one regret and neither do my kids. Capitalism fuels greed? I guess so, but it fuels a lot of other things also; like the job you had because of the law of supply and demand, food on the table, and things like transportation, fuel for transportation, clothes, etc., etc., etc. Again, capitalism is in the eye of the beholder. You seem to only see it as some kind of evil thing. You can make Christmas anything you want to make it. Experiencing rude people can make you bitter or it can make you want to be better. The choice is yours.
__________________ "Unless we make Christmas an occasion to share our blessings, all the snow in Alaska won't make it 'white'." -- Bing Crosby
I agree with Jeff, and Story...You may be in the wrong neighborhood! This is a place where we revere all that is Christmas...All Year...Some of us everyday...We LOVE it and I mean all of those capital letters too!
I'm sorry that the holiday season seems to leave you wanting, that it is less than fulfilling...I had a friend once who felt as you do and decided that he would work at a soup kitchen one Christmas Day...The change in him was dramatic...He saw real human nature and found it to be grateful, kind, humble and loving...He's not been the same since...Perhaps something like that might work for you too! Unless you have no interest in finding the love of Christmas! And that is perfectly alright too! It's not for everyone...I just hope you find a group of people who feel as you do, and that the community offered there is helpful. I think what you might find here, and other sites like ours might just fuel your distaste because we do love it so, and get so excited about it all.
God Bless You Katya! I hope you find what it is that you are looking for!!!
Nothing is more important than the soundtrack!!!
Katya, welcome to the forum. I usually don't wander far from my favorite Countdown thread but felt the urge to respond to you.
I know what how easy it is to dwell on the negative aspect of things..but I found that changing my point of view helps 100%. It's all how you look at it. We all have those awful days when nothing seems to be going right, and you keep your head hung all day...woe is me. But, I've noticed something happens when you actually 'look' for the good. An unexpected smile from a stranger, a wink, someone being polite to someone else and watching the reaction..sometimes these small things, the things that usually go un-noticed, turn my day completely around. I believe all people are good...(well, sometimes!)
Katya, please don't give up. Stick around here for awhile and watch your heart blossom. Believe me.
I agree that a lot of situations change dramatically depending on how you look at them.
- I go out and buy stuff because I love the excuse to get my friends and family gifts. It feels SO GOOD when you think of that perfect gift (not always expensive) that you know will surprise them and make them happy. It's not always "stuff" I want to give my mom a day at the spa this year.
- Some people are gonna act like jerks, but I think these people are always jerks, not always around Christmas.
- I just spent my last day on campus before break and i was making a lot of people smile by wishing them a random Happy Thanksgiving.
Also, I tip more this time of year.
Who'd have ever guessed that product consumption, popular entertainment, and spirituality would mix so harmoniously?" ~Bill Watterson
I see this situation 2 ways personally...1 they are just a little more stressed out because of all the hustle and bustle and 2 they are just onry to begin with. I know coming from a small community people around here are sooo kind and friendly even more so during the holidays. But when I go to the city it tends to be a different story. But as with everything you gotta take the good with some bad I suppose.
But for a season supposedly so happy, why are people becoming so ugly?
Here in my home town we have many stores where I am sure similar events have taken place. Best thing to do is walk out the front door and look what is going on in the rest of the town.
We have 2 organizations that year round assist those in need. At Christmas they make sure that all children receive a gift and because of the generosity of the people in this town it is possible.
There is another group that works with many many volunteers to put on a huge Christmas dinner complete with entertainment for those who have no family and no where to go or could otherwise not afford a dinner out.
Again, hundreds work together to provide a complete turkey dinner with all the fixings for those who cannot afford one. They take several days to assemble these and then one day groups are seen all over town handing them out.
So what you see is a very narrow view, open your eyes and look at all the wonderful things that are going on in your area too.
All good points given here, my only advice to you would be to maybe get in a new profession? If you find Christmas that ugly because of working in retail, then I would really look into something that brought you more happiness Because I think in your day to day routine (minus retail) you will find that Christmas is more of a time where the average "joe" is just all around happier.
I have been in Management for about 9 years of my life Combined at least and I am only 31. I have found that people can be rude all year long. I think it probably seems like you are seeing more rude people during the Christmas season which you Probably are......you however are also seeing more people. I suspect the Ratio of rude to non rude people does jump all that much. It is just that there are a lot more people.
I worked at Toys R Us for about a year when I was younger. I found that the rudest people were the people who collected Hot Wheels. The one I encountered were borderline psycho.