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Vintage Film

Discussion in 'Christmas Together' started by Ryan, Feb 26, 2013.



  1. MerryCarey

    MerryCarey A Voice from the North MMC Lifer MMC Donor Santa's Elf Christmas Crew Louann Jeffries Award Kringle Radio DJ

    For the best info, there's a chapter about Joe Smith & Charlie Dale in Leonard Maltin's book "Movie Comedy Teams." (Unfortunately, it's at home and I'm at the office.) A quick look at IMDB shows that they appeared in films from 1929 to 1931, mostly in early sound shorts. I believe they first made their mark in vaudeville. Their best-known routine is "Doctor Kronkheit and His Only Living Patient," which was on an album of vintage comedy performances that I had when I was a kid (and was later issued on LP). It's heavily accented "immigrant" comedy.

    --Are you the doctor?
    --I'm the doctor.
    --I'm dubious.
    --I'm glad to know you, Mr. Dubious.
    etc.

    You might try searching audio as well as video for a sample of this team. YouTube has "What Price Pants?" and their firehouse routine (from a 1950 TV variety show).

    Trivia: The comedy team in Neil Simon's "The Sunshine Boys" was loosely based on Smith & Dale.
     
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  2. MerryCarey

    MerryCarey A Voice from the North MMC Lifer MMC Donor Santa's Elf Christmas Crew Louann Jeffries Award Kringle Radio DJ

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  3. Yuletide Junkie

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    AMC had to abandon their original format, as they had an extremely limited library, & couldn't begin to compete with TCM. If not for their original series, they would not be on the air anymore, because their current library is updated, but still quite limited.
     
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  4. MerryCarey

    MerryCarey A Voice from the North MMC Lifer MMC Donor Santa's Elf Christmas Crew Louann Jeffries Award Kringle Radio DJ

    That's such a shame, when there are so many (now) little-known but wonderful movies in the vaults. I suspect studios/copyright owners don't like to invest in making broadcast masters of rarities featuring names that aren't widely known today. Sadly, that means these films/actors are unable to be discovered by younger generations. Having friends in the film-collecting community, I'm lucky to see marvelous films that the general public doesn't have access to (collectors own authorized 16mm prints, but the titles have never been released to video), and sadly aware that the public will probably never have the chance to see them. TCM has access to the Universal vaults, but haven't bothered to bring out some gems that have long been gathering dust and are overdue for public showing.
     
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  5. Ryan

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    There are so many movies I have read about that I would love to see. I keep hoping that something will change one day, but I know the market just isn't there for these rare films to be released.
     
  6. Ryan

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    I have been listening to an audio book by Jerry Lewis about his relationship with Dean Martin. I'm a HUGE Dean fan, but not so much a Jerry fan. In fact, I really haven't seen that many Martin and Lewis films. But, this book is making me want to watch some of them and give them another shot. Dean was very funny, but doesn't seem to get credit for it as he's looked at as a singer who made movies. He was a good actor in my opinion, and a ton of fun to watch.

    The Martin and Lewis films have been released on DVD but only in box sets and they are hard to come by and expensive. I wish they would get single releases. It doesn't seem as if TCM shows them often, either.
     
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  7. MerryCarey

    MerryCarey A Voice from the North MMC Lifer MMC Donor Santa's Elf Christmas Crew Louann Jeffries Award Kringle Radio DJ

    I agree that Dino can be a VERY funny guy. We got ahold of some videos of his 1960s TV variety show, and he's a hoot in those. The backstory is that he would only do a series on HIS terms, which included insisting that he would not come in to rehearse, but only come in on the day of taping. (He learned his songs on his own during the week.) A stand-in rehearsed with the guests. That led to some funny moments on the show. And he tended to work rather loosely anyway---he had no problem with throwing in ad-libs or unscripted business.

    I am not a Jerry fan because of some firsthand accounts that I've heard from two people who have worked with him, one while working on a book about his films, the other one while working with him on a movie.
     
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  8. Ryan

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    Perhaps one day, privately, you can share the Jerry stories. I'd love to hear. Isn't that awful! But, it's hard to pass up some good movie biz gossip. He admits in this audio book that in the past he was a jerk. I hope he's changed, but who knows? I'm guessing his ego is quite large. A little bit of his comedy goes a long way with me. Although I do find the Nutty Professor to be his funniest picture.

    I've heard, on the other hand, that Dean was a very nice guy!
     
  9. Ryan

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    I ordered a new DVD today of some Charley Chase shorts from when he was at Columbia. I have not seen much of his work so I am looking forward to this!
     
  10. MerryCarey

    MerryCarey A Voice from the North MMC Lifer MMC Donor Santa's Elf Christmas Crew Louann Jeffries Award Kringle Radio DJ

    You're in for a treat, if you like Columbia shorts. (They get a bit noisy and frantic for me, although Chase's aren't as bad as some others.) I prefer his Hal Roach shorts, but any Charley Chase is good for me. He directed shorts at Columbia too, including some for the Three Stooges.

    Wait'll you see "The Heckler." He's the baseball spectator from h---. "Watch him miss it!!!"
     
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  11. Ryan

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    I can't wait to see them! I thought about buying a dvd with some of his silent Roach comedies. But, this set I purchased has a short he directed that features Smith and Dale, and I'm looking forward to seeing them in action.
     
  12. MerryCarey

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    His silent comedies are SO good ... "Limousine Love" and "Mighty Lak a Moose" come to mind, but there are others that are great, and the Roach talkies, too. More folks should be watching him, now that his stuff is becoming available. Watch him in his Roach shorts with Thelma Todd---they had a thing going, and you can see there's a connection there. (Also carefully watch Thelma and Chico Marx in "Horse Feathers" while he's doing his piano solo ... they look REALLY chummy!)
     
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  13. Ryan

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    Poor Thelma Todd.

    I love to write fiction (no telling if any of it will ever be published). I have a detective character set in the 30s who gets involved in the murder case of a young actress who has more than a few things in common with Todd (names are changed, and some facts are changed to suit the story). I've always liked Todd and hold sort of a soft spot for her.

    Do you hold to the suicide theory?
     
  14. Ryan

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    This isn't vintage film, but it is the best forum for it, I suppose. Yesterday I came across some OTR that I was not familiar with. I heard an episode of the Phil Harris-Alice Faye show, and it was VERY funny! It makes me want to find more episodes and chekc them out. Seem to have more of an edge to it than some comedy from that era.
     
  15. MerryCarey

    MerryCarey A Voice from the North MMC Lifer MMC Donor Santa's Elf Christmas Crew Louann Jeffries Award Kringle Radio DJ

    No. I understand from things that I've read that she was in the midst of her Christmas shopping and had already mailed Christmas cards, and was talking about other plans. Friends are quoted as saying she was upbeat and optimistic about her career. I'd lean more toward accident or murder. After all this time, we'll never know.
     
  16. Ryan

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    Fyi

    Programming Note: Thursday night on TCM there is a whole batch of Harold Lloyd comedies coming on! Some I have on DVD, but there's a lot I don't! I'm looking forward to it.
     
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  17. trackrebel

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    I love Doris Day Movies....there is one....I don´t know the English Title.....where she is married to a gynecologist and has two children....she is the perfect housewive.....then she and her husband invited to a patients home for dinner.......he is working in advertising and is looking for an actress in his new soap spot......long story short.....Doris Day gets that one....and this throws the entire familylife upside down.....

    anybody know how that movies is called?
     
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  18. MerryCarey

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    I Googled the key words in your description. I think it's "The Thrill of It All."
     
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  19. trackrebel

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    yup that is the name....You gotta watch it.....it is a nice movie....funny and all......ok....the emancipation seems a longshot in that movie.....still....I love that movie
     
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  20. Ryan

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    I am watching some of the Harold Lloyd shorts on TCM. These prints look amazing! I am not sure how they restored them, but for 96 year old pictures they are pristine.

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